Historically, the margins in lengths were calculated from still photographs as each runner crossed the line. One second is equal to five horse lengths, so 5 seconds would be equal to 25 horse lengths. 15f+: 1lb per length. i have not read all before.My understanding,was or is even time 12 seconds etc my thoughts 6 lengths to the sec. But don't they measure length's beaten from a camera still, from the winner ? It can help horses win by its very absence and stop them winning because it is there. This script returns conversions for generally used horse race track distances. (i.e. The actual number of lengths-per-second varies according to the type of race and the going conditions. Done this from memory but will check computer code when I get back. Other measures Lengths Per Second - Racing Talk - Racehorse TALK, This is from Wikipedia, so I know it might not be 100% reliable, but for what it's worth, It's an interesting question - to state the bleeding obvious why are we recording margins in lengths, Greyhounds are always 15L to the second, but that's not really relevant to this is it. One length in thoroughbred racing is roughly equal to 17 one-hundredths of a second, so rounding to fifths can obscure differences of slightly more than a length - … 15+ Furlongs: 1 pound per length. A master horse racing tool to align horses to their relative positions even if if they didn't run together: The Formgrids Length Behind Tool. Horse racing weight conversion table. But working to the Wilson formula of 2kg per length, the horse would have been beaten 8kg. The weight carried by a horse in any particular race will normally be displayed in a stone and pounds format, this is shortened to an easily readable display such as 11-12 (11 stone 12 pounds). Not disputing you Wenona, just found it confusing Mitavite, one of Australia's biggest feed distributors claiming it to be 12 to the furlong. Of course it relates to how fast they're travelling. 55 MPH is the top speed of the world’s fastest horses. Even time is a racing term that has been around since the day dot and it means 15 seconds per furlong. In the results or form of a horse, it will show a margin in lengths. One second is equal to five horse lengths, so 5 seconds would be equal to 25 horse lengths. length of a horse from nose to tail, approximately 8 feet, Quote from: Steve M on 2011-Jul-31, 08:10  PM, Quote from: ratsack on 2011-Jul-31, 09:24  PM, http://www.mitavite.com.au/mitavite06/Calculator/, Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-Jul-31, 10:13  PM, Quote from: Wenona on 2011-Jul-31, 11:15  PM, Quote from: Wenona on 2011-Jul-31, 11:20  PM, Quote from: arthur on 2011-Aug-01, 08:42  AM, Quote from: JWesleyHarding on 2011-Jul-31, 07:00  PM. One Length or more Anything above one length will be shown in a racebook form guide as 1 1/4 len, 3 1/2 len, or 4 3/4 len, whereas the decimal equivalent would be shown as 1.25L, 3.5L and 4.75L. However, if a race was run over 5f in 55 seconds at a sharp track like Epsom on good to firm going, our scale suggests it should be closer to 4lbs per length. Hmmm. You could get a horse winning by 10 lengths but the horse it was 10 lengths clear of may have weakened and missed a place. Race margins: 2 len * 4 len or decimally "2L * 4L". And this is a pretty good start for an average. At 98 seconds we had 2.26 pounds per length and 2.3 pounds for 8f. The home of Horse Racing on BBC Sport online. A horse can win, or be beaten, by a length or more, or by fractions thereof -- 3/4 of a length, half-length, 1/4 length, neck, head or nose. However, at that point, he covered the 2nd 1/4 in 23 seconds, or 57.39 fps, which equates to 6.38 lengths per second for the 9 foot long horse. Includes the latest news stories, results, fixtures, video and audio. Using the measurement of human performance as a template the book attempts to do the same with horses. The Daily Racing form uses 5. 12 seconds to the furlong a working gallop?????? "even time" or 200 metres in 15 seconds). In Scientific Racegoing they equate the speed of a horse at the end of a race  as 5 lengths per second, and this is then used in calculating a Speed Rating of race and then for each horse in that race. Although it has been shown — repeatedly — that this rule is not accurate, many horseplayers still swear by it. Or roughly 12 seconds per furlong. I thought it was roughly 0.14 secs per length, about 7 lengths per second. Select the distance factor of the race and then enter the value of the factor. Steeplechases over four miles or further can take up to ten minutes. In some books (especially American ones) you might see 5 lengths per second as being the norm. It depends on how many lengths per second you use. I tend to allow about a half second or so for wet tracks, or quicker on firm turf racing. 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. Naturally, that depends. 11-13f: 1.5lbs per length. Thanks, Of course you know that Carey. 14 Furlongs: 1.25 pounds per length. 14f: 1.25lbs per length. Without going into the complexities, the scale used for Timeform ratings represents more than 3 lb a length at five furlongs, 2 lb a length at a mile and a quarter and 1 lb a length at two miles. The baseline speed for 7 furlongs is 0.1375, which has an arbitrary value of 1,000. Racing is based on weight. Distances are calculated on the elapsed time between each horse and then a scale known as the Lengths per Second Scale (Lps) is used dependent upon whether it is Flat or Jumps racing, the type of surface in use at the all-weather fixtures and the official going description issued on the day. yep and 6 lengths per sec. Lengths Per Second - Racing Talk - Racehorse TALK. A five-furlong race is often over within one minute and decent sprinters will generally run a furlong in under 12 seconds once they are up to speed. lengths/ second is not a lineal measure . A length is the distance of a horse from nose to tail and is shown in a form guide as 'len' E.G. The length of a horse "Length: The measurement corresponding to the average length of a horse and used to describe winning, or losing, distances. The traditional standard is 2.4 metres (8 feet), but some people use 2.7 metres (9 feet) while others take an average and use 2.55 metres. 0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic. The average length of a horse is around 2.5 metres and a horse that finishes hard-running at 30mph is covering 13.4 metres per second, while one going at 15mph covers 6.7 metres in the same time. . I'll muck around with it.. just trying something at the moment. Weight is the great equaliser. depends on how quickly they are running their last 600. . Learn the terms and techniques to place your first bet. Guinness World Record recognizes Winning Brew, a Thoroughbred, as the fastest horse in the world at 43.97 mph. It is still “time,” so convert to speed by dividing it by the lengths of the race (84.05 divide 577.5) and this horse’s speed was approximately 0.1455 (seconds per length). So in theory, if horse A beats horse B by 2 lengths in a 5 furlong race, he is considered to be 6 pounds better on the day. Five seconds on the track equates to how many horse lengths? Usain Bolt is capable of running sub-10-seconds for 100 metres, but he could, if he wished, jog the distance in 20 seconds. that is about 14 (13.3333) metres per second Which is about 7 lengths per second So a horse working at 'even-time' would be covering about 7 L/sec 2640 feet in 45 seconds is 58.67 feet per second, or 6.52 lengths per second for the 9 foot long horse. If the horse won the race, then the margin is the number of lengths it … If we are looking at, say, a 2400m race and the horse is beaten 4 lengths, the Wilson formula would say the horse was beaten 4kg (1kg equalling a length). From information on lengths per second and this book you will be able to create your own speed rating for any horse. Our results show that at 57 seconds that 3.88 pounds is required for each horse length. 8/48 =.1666666… seconds per horse length 1 mile is 5280 ft, length of horse is 8 ft, so 5280 / 8 = 660 horse lengths around the track. Only good horses can run good times, but both good and bad horses can run bad times. I wouldn't want to be backing the horses where 2.4m= 1 length. 12 seconds to the furlong is a working gallop, give or take, and 14 - 15 secs to the furlong is 3/4 pace as far as I know. it is a measure of speed . Thoroughbred sprinters can go about 10-11 seconds per furlong, and about 11-12 seconds in the end. It used to be that 1 second always covered 5 lengths but since June 15th 2008 the British Horseracing Authority has set the following distances as equating to one second of time for all UK horse races. Splitting the difference to get 5f puts us at 3.81 pounds. For example, in a flat turf race run on good going, a value of six lengths-per-second is used; in a national hunt race on heavy going, where horses are assumed to be moving more slowly, the value is four lengths-per-second. I've allways worked on 6 lengths to the sec. A horses physical length can't change, no matter how fast they are going. therefore it goes on from there? Bioenergetics and Racehorse Ratings is an alternate approach to creating speed ratings. Thus 1 length would be roughly 2 metres 'Even time' a term not used that often these days was 15 seconds to the furlong . . 9-10f: 1.75lbs per length. Most of the gallop was run at even time, with a 400m sprint in 26 seconds in the home straight. In racing vernacular, a "length" is exactly that - the length of a racehorse in stride. Always use the correct lengths per second for the race run. Sorry to be a nark, but I can't see what the big issue is. Using 1.5kg to a length we would say that he was beaten 6kg. What this means, is that, over a 5 furlong race, if a horse was ahead of the established horse by 1 length, then it should have been carrying 3lbs more. Perhaps the oldest and silliest horse racing rule of thumb in the history of old and silly horse racing rules of thumb is the notion that a length equals a fifth of a second. Horse racing offers a unique, interactive experience like no other sport. Definition of horse speed unit: ≈ 1½ miles in 2' 22.8". 11–13 Furlongs: 1.5 pounds per length. The margins were formerly painted on the running rail. Table 1 showed that at 4f, 4.58 pounds was required and at 6f, 3.05 pounds. In Scientific Racegoing they equate the speed of a horse at the end of a race as 5 lengths per second, and this is then used in calculating a Speed Rating of race and then for each horse in that race. To me, a benchmark for routers is somewhere between 11-13 seconds depending on the early pace. Of course this varies by track, surface, and weather conditions but a “good time” for six furlongs is around 1:10 (one minute and 10 seconds). If you fancy showing the same, you can try to do likewise! For the base of horse speed, I used the record for 1½ miles (2,414 m) which is 60.86 km/h (37.82 mph) by 3-year-old Hawkster at Santa Anita Park, Arcadia, California, USA on 14 October 1989 with a time of 2min 22.8sec. Be sure to check out our Beginner’s Guide to horse racing, which explains betting procedure, horse racing results, and horse racing terminology. It also computes the AVERAGE speed of the race in both miles per hour and kilometers per hour if you correctly enter the length of the race, and if the official time of the race is entered. horse speed. Quarter horses racing 440-yard have been timed running 55 mph, the fastest recorded speed of any horse. To say "Horse A is 10 lengths ahead of Horse B" is to say that Horse A is ahead of Horse B by the approximate equivalent distance of that horses body length in stride times ten. 1320 feet in 22 seconds is 60 feet per second, or 6.67 lengths per second for the 9 foot long horse. so (and obiously you may say) the more lengths per second, the faster, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 04:49  PM, Quote from: junior on 2011-Jul-31, 04:52  PM, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 04:51  PM, Quote from: carey on 2011-Jul-31, 05:01  PM, Quote from: Rodent on 2011-Jul-31, 05:07  PM, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 05:22  PM, Quote from: carey on 2011-Jul-31, 05:15  PM, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 05:32  PM, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 05:39  PM, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 05:58  PM, Quote from: carey on 2011-Jul-31, 06:05  PM, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 06:12  PM. 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